Tuesday 30 August 2011

Tuesday thoughts

I'm not quite sure why we have a week's break at the start of September before our next match. If such a break were to be a staple of cricket seasons I would reckon the players might fancy one to get their breath and reassemble limbs just after the T20. Still, what do I know?

First tonight, congratulations to Usman Khawaja for making the Australian side for the first Test in Sri Lanka, where he will bat number six. I'm sure that, like me, you will watch his performance with interest and keep your fingers crossed that he does well.

The poll is nearing its end and at this stage looks like most people would like a star batsman. As things stand, that would probably be my preference, though it depends on other factors. To take two recent rumours as an example, if we picked up Martin Van Jaarsveld or Chris Taylor as a batsman, I'd be quite happy with Danish Kaneria as an overseas. Hey, we can all dream...

Good comments from Mastervillain and notoveryet below the last two posts and I'd be inclined to agree with them to some extent, though financial considerations will dictate what we do with regard to improvements in the winter. I'd agree that Chesney Hughes needs a bit of work on his footwork (and his running between the wickets at times...) while Ross Whiteley will be better known next season. By the same token, we can't really afford to leave either of them or Dan Redfern in the second eleven and bring in others. I would agree that Michael Thornely is a good player, but only if Karl Krikken and Luke Sutton feel that he is substantially better than those named above is there any point in recruiting the guy.

The reality is that next season each appearance by Redfern, Hughes, Whiteley, Knight, Burgoyne, Borrington and Poynton, not to mention Clare (whoops, I did...) brings us £2K PER MAN. Apologies for the capitals but it is important to remember this. We would get a small percentage of that for Thornely, with Sussex, who developed him, getting the lion's share. If the feeling was that Thornely might average 40 and/or more than Paul Borrington as opener that might be one thing, but over a season the latter would earn us £20-30K more money. If they were both likely to average in the thirties, I know which one makes sense as a regular.

I'd also look at the stats - Thornely averages 19 from 30 first class innings; Borrington 30 from 42. The former does, granted, average 38 in one day games, but given Borrington has only played one (and made 25) that's a comparison that can't be made.

I'd agree another experienced batsman would be good, but he has to be someone with the nous and the stats to make it worthwhile. I don't think we can pay 40K-plus for a player who isn't going to be in the first choice team making a lot of runs or taking wickets.

Here's a cautionary tale. An all-rounder changed counties last winter for a reported salary of £90K and extras. This year his 19 innings have produced an average of 18 with the bat (19 in one day games) and he has 24 wickets at 45 each (just 7 at 60 in one day games.)

That was Graham Wagg, as you probably guessed. It can work in both directions though, so we need to make sure we get it right - we all remember Rikki Clarke. Chris Grant won't pay over the odds for anyone and anyone coming in will have to fit into the masterplan, as a player and as a man. The side have shown a tremendous spirit this season, itself a major selling point.

I look forward to news on winter recruitment. Like all of you, I have my ideas, but I am content in leaving it to the professionals, who know their stuff better than any of us.

They'll do a good job.

7 comments:

  1. I am worried that you think Luke Sutton is in charge of our recruitment policy! Can we take it then we'll not be getting the new captain and the new wicket keeper we need?
    Ben

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  2. When it comes to possible recruits for next season,there are a number of factors to consider. First and foremost its likely to be on the basis of one in,one out. That doesn,t give give much room for manoeuvre as most players are still on contract,with Smith the most notable exception.

    I don,t want to dwell on Smith too much as with any luck he won,t be around. Whatever the difference between the club,s valuation of him and his own should really be irrelevant as he is not worth another contract and should be released anyway.

    I voted for an overseas batsman,on the grounds they tend to have more influence than bowlers. Having said that,i agree with Notoveryet that the seam bowling department requires urgent attention. If Groenewald and Palladino are both missing for any lenght of time we would have serious problems. Jones has gone, along with his experience and we just cannot rely on Footitt and Turner,particularly in one day games. I don,t see that situation changing much as both are now pretty much set in their ways. If we found a good overseas bowler,i would change my vote,but he would have to be a good un.

    Knight,s availability along with Durston,Hughes and Burgoyne lessens the need for a spinner,so i feel reasonably happy with this side of things. Should Wainwright become available though,i think we would have to give it serious consideration,not least because he is a useful batsman in addition to his bowling. I think he could be far more useful than Smith and would save us a few thousand quid into the bargain.

    We have to assume that Madsen and Hughes will both regain lost form. I am not convinced about Hughes as an opener,though i can see why Krikken has persisted with it,given he is pretty clueless against spin. This is something he must work on and find the answer. This season he has been a walking wicket against the dobbers. I would still go for Thornley,who is also a handy bowler and a good fielder. His age is also in keeping with the club,s philosophy.

    Much to think about Peakfan and i,m sure we will all follow developments with great interest.

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  3. Peakfan, John Morris was a sound judge of what a player is worth and I am glad that all three of us seem to agree that given what Graham Wagg was wanting John made the right decision to let him go.
    Ben

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  4. Peakfan - you can shorten this if you like.
    I've been following Derbyshire cricket for some time now, following the various blogs, watching the odd game and....
    1. There are many, many plusses..
    2. Plenty of talented players...
    3. A great spirit amongst the team...considering the flack they get when they don't perform.
    But, I cannot say as much for a lot of the supporters who contribute on the various blogs,
    (excluding you whom I consider to be very objective on most club issues )
    ... who feel it necessary to continually stick the knife in without knowing the full story.
    The majority of County players are walking a career tight rope and are fully aware that their future is dependent on performance and therefore every opportunity they get to represent a team means giving 100%... pretty obvious, or is it...
    How many supporters out there know what a player might be going through to give of his best,very few it would seem ...
    Statisics are there to provide a record of performance, but can also be very missleading. Like any scorecard, only the result goes in, no explanations or accolades..
    Only one Player gets M.O.M., but the Team were all part of it... A batsman makes a big score, but needs a partner... A bowler gets wickets...but how often was it because the other bowlers were keeping the batsmen pinned down...and so on and so on...

    This year, Derbyshire were a good " TEAM "... and a lot of that came from "fringe" players that may not have scored the big runs, or got all the wickets, but put in match winning or match saving performances without getting much more than a "mention in dispatches",....and may also, just be going through a "patch".

    A team made up of a bunch of stars, can often be taken apart by a team of commited players with a strong leader....
    All so very obvious....
    Not really when reading the blogs..

    It is a pity that Derbyshire haven't got a fat purse.... but, considering what they have got, I think every supporter should be 100% behind the " Team " and proud of what they have achieved... and that means over the entire season..
    Because money alone doesn't bring success....

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  5. I would endorse the 'team' theme completely. There appears to have been far greater cohesion this year. I also think this needs to be taken into context with the number of new or newish players that have come into the reckoning over the past season and a half.

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  6. Good points on the Thornley financial return, Peakfan. Not thought that one through really, seduced by the age aspect alone I suspect!

    I was not advocating Thornley as a replacement for any of the current crop if their form was good. More the means to satisfy the need for additional cover, particularly if Smith and, maybe, Park are not figuring in the 1st team squad next term.

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  7. Good comments guys. Ben - Krikk is in charge of cricket matters but the skipper will rightly have his opinion sought. John Morris did that with Chris Rogers, so why wouldn't/shouldn't Krikk do the same with an equally experienced professional?

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